what about it, jim, media by as, is ryan's point fair? >> since 1986 when the authors li chter, lichter and roctor said the media were libya by 4-1. i don't think that is in dispute. it's only if it spills over into their professional work. i think on that store the evidence from 2012 is pretty clear. i'm looking at a headline from the daily beast, why mitt romney is trapped by his neglect any of narrative. who wrote that -- who created that narrative? it wasn't romney or ryan it was the media, they've done it to him. gregg: alan let me cite a couple of things. "the washington post" opls buds man admitted a obama by as at one time. and reporters were scolded and urged to be more balance and fair and not so proobama. he aop lee admitted the newspaper's vie last. isn't that an admission of it? >> that's why it's good for them to have a public editor to ride herd on just like "the new york times" does. gregg: is it system i be i can. >> i don't think it's systemic. even if you were to say a lot of the people in the media are liberal, as jim